Define Perfect Weapon plz - Page 2 - Guild Wars Forums

Savio · Apr 14, 2006, 10:12 AM // 10:12

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Originally Posted by Loralai

Vilnar's Claw +3 (hexed) imperfect imo.

Actually, Villnar's Claw is +5 (while hexed), which is perfect. Not that I like the hexed part. The other green one-handed caster items with +energy - Gordac's Needle, Bortak's Bone Claw, Korvald's Cane, Brimstone Wand, Ivor's Smiting Rod - have imperfect +energy mods but positive conditions for them.

Skuld · Apr 14, 2006, 11:12 AM // 11:12

Perfect to me is 15 over 50, 20 whilst hexed, +30 health, 5 energy whilst enchanted, ie max mods on everything. The req does not matter.

funbun · Apr 14, 2006, 01:19 PM // 13:19

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Originally Posted by frojack

Well if you ever want to experiment with different builds that don't require "OMG! 16 sword FTW!" then you'll probably want the optimum damage/attribute value from your weapon. That optimum is 12.
In which case, 13 requirement isn't that good.

That's interesting. How did you come up with that number?

frojack · Apr 14, 2006, 07:20 PM // 19:20

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Originally Posted by funbun

That's interesting. How did you come up with that number?

Game Mechanics

Courtesy of Ensign...

nitetime · Apr 15, 2006, 03:01 AM // 03:01

For the sake of auctions, which was part of the original question, I wouldnt consider anything that has a req over 8 to be perfect...everyone has wonderful opinions though, to each their own.

Mr D J · Apr 15, 2006, 03:04 AM // 03:04

people think sundering is perfect *cough*, well its only perfect if its used with mending and knight's armor

dgb · Apr 15, 2006, 09:22 AM // 09:22

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Originally Posted by tuna-fish_sushi

for example:
would you rather have a req 7 crystalline sword or a req 13 crystalline sword?
I guarentee you ever one who actually plays guild wars and can read will take the req 7 crystalline. Thus a weapon is more desirable. More desirable means more perfect which would thus make the one that is less perfect not perfect.

I couldn't care less. Either is getting customised and will be used to inflict the same level of damage.

Ole Man Bourbon · Apr 15, 2006, 03:11 PM // 15:11

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Originally Posted by frojack

Game Mechanics

Courtesy of Ensign...

I don't see where Ensign mentions 12 as being the ideal attribute level, but I skimmed.

In PvE, attributes don't really matter too much. But in PvP, which is what all of the super expensive items are typically being bought for, it does.

With any type of damage weapon (or any damage attribute like Air or Domination Magic), you want 15-16 unless you absolutely NEED the extra pts in some other line for a specific build-related reason. It's because you absolutely must be doing the max damage to be able to spike through heals and successfully kill your enemy. When it comes to melee weapons and bows, having higher attribute levels not only increases the damage levels, but the chances for critical hits, which are key to doing big damage fast.

To put it simply, if you're going to do damage, you must do the most damage possible or stay home when in PvP. Therefore, attribute levels for weapons should be close to irrelevant unless they are being used for farming.

nitetime · Apr 15, 2006, 11:03 PM // 23:03

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Originally Posted by Ole Man Bourbon

I don't see where Ensign mentions 12 as being the ideal attribute level, but I skimmed.

In PvE, attributes don't really matter too much. But in PvP, which is what all of the super expensive items are typically being bought for, it does.

With any type of damage weapon (or any damage attribute like Air or Domination Magic), you want 15-16 unless you absolutely NEED the extra pts in some other line for a specific build-related reason. It's because you absolutely must be doing the max damage to be able to spike through heals and successfully kill your enemy. When it comes to melee weapons and bows, having higher attribute levels not only increases the damage levels, but the chances for critical hits, which are key to doing big damage fast.

To put it simply, if you're going to do damage, you must do the most damage possible or stay home when in PvP. Therefore, attribute levels for weapons should be close to irrelevant unless they are being used for farming.

Did you miss this part? Yet another quality vs efficiency debate.

After 12, the returns on increasing your weapon attributes diminish sharply - each additional level is worth just 40% of what the previous levels got you. More generally, for attributes over 12 use the following equation:

[Effective Damage] = [Weapon Damage] × 2((2 × [Attribute Level] - 24) / 40)

Or, in tabular form:

Effect of Attributes on Weapon Damage Attribute
Level Percent of
Weapon Damage
0 35.6%
1 38.6%
2 42.0%
3 45.9%
4 50.0%
5 54.5%
6 59.5%
7 64.8%
8 70.7%
9 77.1%
10 84.1%
11 91.7%
12 100%
13 104%
14 107%
15 111%
16 115%

Apr 14, 2006, 11:12 AM // 11:12	#22
Skuld Furnace Stoker Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr] Profession: A/	Perfect to me is 15 over 50, 20 whilst hexed, +30 health, 5 energy whilst enchanted, ie max mods on everything. The req does not matter.

Apr 15, 2006, 03:01 AM // 03:01	#25
nitetime Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: eotn Profession: W/	For the sake of auctions, which was part of the original question, I wouldnt consider anything that has a req over 8 to be perfect...everyone has wonderful opinions though, to each their own.

Apr 15, 2006, 03:04 AM // 03:04	#26
Mr D J Permanently Unbanned Join Date: Jun 2005	people think sundering is perfect cough, well its only perfect if its used with mending and knight's armor